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== EarthBound series 30th anniversary ==
== EarthBound series 30th anniversary ==


Today is the 30th anniversary of the EarthBound series since the release of Mother in Japan. Should this be included in the wiki news?[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:blue;"> '''SupaToad64''' </span>]] [[ Image:Toad.jpg|20px]] 01:34, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
Today is the 30th anniversary of the EarthBound series since the release of Mother in Japan. Should this be included in the wiki news?[[User:Ultimαte Toαd|<span style="color:blue;"> '''SupaToad64'''</span>]] [[ File:Toad.jpg|20px]] 01:34, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
:I apologize for my late response on this. I like the idea. [[User:Tacopill|Tacopill]] ([[User talk:Tacopill|talk]]) 18:28, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
:I apologize for my late response on this. I like the idea. [[User:Tacopill|Tacopill]] ([[User talk:Tacopill|talk]]) 18:28, 27 July 2019 (UTC)


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I'm proposing this Wiki-tan to be the site mascot. It's similar to Wikipe-tan, but more in an earthbound-style. Created by PreacherJr of the Earthbound Amino. [[User:Tacopill|Tacopill]] ([[User talk:Tacopill|talk]]) 14:46, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
I'm proposing this Wiki-tan to be the site mascot. It's similar to Wikipe-tan, but more in an earthbound-style. Created by PreacherJr of the Earthbound Amino. [[User:Tacopill|Tacopill]] ([[User talk:Tacopill|talk]]) 14:46, 5 April 2020 (UTC)


:lol uh... the artwork is nice but I'm not entirely sure if this is suited for this wiki. After all we usually don't see fanart on wikis in general. I do think a mascot would be good for this wiki, but my first choice would be an actual EarthBound series character , my personal picks would be probably Ness or Mr Saturn (I have thought of Starman before, but Starmen.net has kinda already taken that). <span style="font-family: Algerian;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0087ff"> '''''[[User:supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;">Omegα</span>]] [[User talk:supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;">Toαd </span>]][[Special:contributions/Ultimate Toad|<span style="color:dodgerblue;">64</span>]]'''''</span> [[Image:Toad.jpg|20px]] 22:42, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
:lol uh... the artwork is nice but I'm not entirely sure if this is suited for this wiki. After all we usually don't see fanart on wikis in general. I do think a mascot would be good for this wiki, but my first choice would be an actual EarthBound series character , my personal picks would be probably Ness or Mr Saturn (I have thought of Starman before, but Starmen.net has kinda already taken that). <span style="font-family: Algerian;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0087ff"> '''''[[User:supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;">Omegα</span>]] [[User talk:supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;">Toαd </span>]][[Special:contributions/Ultimate Toad|<span style="color:dodgerblue;">64</span>]]'''''</span> [[File:Toad.jpg|20px]] 22:42, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
:Don't mean to double post but I felt I should be more specific: My concern with this one is that it looks more like a generic anime character rather than something to represent EarthBound. <small>(As a disclaimer I have nothing against anime and people who like it and I find weebs to be at least somewhat tolerable <s>unlike furries</s>)</small> While this character does wear Paula's dress she doesn't fit well in an encyclopedia dedicated to EarthBound, if this was an EarthBound fansite yes she would work, but this is a public encyclopedia so it's something different.
:Don't mean to double post but I felt I should be more specific: My concern with this one is that it looks more like a generic anime character rather than something to represent EarthBound. <small>(As a disclaimer I have nothing against anime and people who like it and I find weebs to be at least somewhat tolerable <s>unlike furries</s>)</small> While this character does wear Paula's dress she doesn't fit well in an encyclopedia dedicated to EarthBound, if this was an EarthBound fansite yes she would work, but this is a public encyclopedia so it's something different.


:The reason I suggested Ness and Saturn is since they are both among the most iconic and recognized characters in the EarthBound series, after all the italian WikiBound has Ness on the logo. As a result they would fot well for the community driven EarthBound/Mother encyclopedia (btw how come the slogan doesn't appear on pages or on Google search? Like how SmashWiki says "From SmashWiki, the Super Smash Bros. Wiki") Anyway while I do like the artwork I feel it's out of place for this wiki . <span style="font-family: Algerian;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0087ff"> '''''[[User:supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;">Omegα</span>]] [[User talk:supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;">Toαd </span>]][[Special:contributions/Ultimate Toad|<span style="color:dodgerblue;">64</span>]]'''''</span> [[Image:Toad.jpg|20px]] 23:15, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
:The reason I suggested Ness and Saturn is since they are both among the most iconic and recognized characters in the EarthBound series, after all the italian WikiBound has Ness on the logo. As a result they would fot well for the community driven EarthBound/Mother encyclopedia (btw how come the slogan doesn't appear on pages or on Google search? Like how SmashWiki says "From SmashWiki, the Super Smash Bros. Wiki") Anyway while I do like the artwork I feel it's out of place for this wiki . <span style="font-family: Algerian;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0087ff"> '''''[[User:supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;">Omegα</span>]] [[User talk:supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;">Toαd </span>]][[Special:contributions/Ultimate Toad|<span style="color:dodgerblue;">64</span>]]'''''</span> [[File:Toad.jpg|20px]] 23:15, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
::Nothing about this character to me says "EarthBound", aside from the logo sticker on her bag, which I almost missed. [[User:Alex95|Alex95]] ([[User talk:Alex95|talk]]) 17:23, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
::Nothing about this character to me says "EarthBound", aside from the logo sticker on her bag, which I almost missed. [[User:Alex95|Alex95]] ([[User talk:Alex95|talk]]) 17:23, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
::I think the style of the wiki-tan given is not suited for this wiki. [[User:StarFoxNook|StarFoxNook]] ([[User talk:StarFoxNook|talk]]) 01:38, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
::I think the style of the wiki-tan given is not suited for this wiki. [[User:StarFoxNook|StarFoxNook]] ([[User talk:StarFoxNook|talk]]) 01:38, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
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:On [[Help:Uploading media]] we actually do have it written:
:On [[Help:Uploading media]] we actually do have it written:
::"''Be sure to include where you got the file from, what it depicts, etc.''"
::"''Be sure to include where you got the file from, what it depicts, etc.''"
:It is a bit unclear though so I believe it would be good to clarify how (e.g. a link to the source or at least a mention of where it was from). <span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS">'''''[[User:Ultimate Toad|<font color="dodgerblue">Omegα</font>]] [[User talk:Ultimate Toad|<font color="mediumseagreen">Toαd</font>]] [[Special:contributions/Ultimate Toad|<font color="red">64</font>]]'''''</span> [[Image:Toad.jpg|20px]] 03:29, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
:It is a bit unclear though so I believe it would be good to clarify how (e.g. a link to the source or at least a mention of where it was from). <span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS">'''''[[User:Ultimate Toad|<font color="dodgerblue">Omegα</font>]] [[User talk:Ultimate Toad|<font color="mediumseagreen">Toαd</font>]] [[Special:contributions/Ultimate Toad|<font color="red">64</font>]]'''''</span> [[File:Toad.jpg|20px]] 03:29, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
:Yea, I read that over, and I'm agreeing. Some of the recent file uploads don't say if they are game rips, downloaded from another site or something else. Not pointing fingers, just bringing it up so people don't have to backtrack in future uploads.  
:Yea, I read that over, and I'm agreeing. Some of the recent file uploads don't say if they are game rips, downloaded from another site or something else. Not pointing fingers, just bringing it up so people don't have to backtrack in future uploads.  
:If you did upload a file and didn't give a clear source, please make sure to head back and add it.  
:If you did upload a file and didn't give a clear source, please make sure to head back and add it.  
:Thank you, [[User:Tacopill|Tacopill]] ([[User talk:Tacopill|talk]]) 03:39, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
:Thank you, [[User:Tacopill|Tacopill]] ([[User talk:Tacopill|talk]]) 03:39, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
::Yeah that would probably be me lol. Though yes I fully agree sourcing them is a good idea. To clarify though the recent surplus of uploads from me are from official Japanese strategy guides for Mother 1 and 2, which contain illustrations of the items that I scan and crop myself. <span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS">'''''[[User:Ultimate Toad|<font color="dodgerblue">Omegα</font>]] [[User talk:Ultimate Toad|<font color="mediumseagreen">Toαd</font>]] [[Special:contributions/Ultimate Toad|<font color="red">64</font>]]'''''</span> [[Image:Toad.jpg|20px]] 04:02, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
::Yeah that would probably be me lol. Though yes I fully agree sourcing them is a good idea. To clarify though the recent surplus of uploads from me are from official Japanese strategy guides for Mother 1 and 2, which contain illustrations of the items that I scan and crop myself. <span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS">'''''[[User:Ultimate Toad|<font color="dodgerblue">Omegα</font>]] [[User talk:Ultimate Toad|<font color="mediumseagreen">Toαd</font>]] [[Special:contributions/Ultimate Toad|<font color="red">64</font>]]'''''</span> [[File:Toad.jpg|20px]] 04:02, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
:::Cool, and thank you for clarifying. This does raise more questions.
:::Cool, and thank you for clarifying. This does raise more questions.
:::# Do you know if the book has an ISBN? If so, we could probably link to them via [[Special:BookSources]].
:::# Do you know if the book has an ISBN? If so, we could probably link to them via [[Special:BookSources]].
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::::I don't actually own the EarthBound one, but from what it seems like is it's basically the Mother 2 counterpart to the Mother 1 guide. A little while ago I was able to find a collection of the item pages on Starmen.net's Mother 1+2 item guide, which contain all of the other items besides the weapons have the English names right next to the items[http://starmen.net/mother12/itemguides/mother2/weapons/weapons.php] (which makes it more convenient and a lot easier to translate the names so it's a plus for me). I don't have the M2 player's guide, and from what it seems both that and the EarthBound player's guide don't have pictures of every item in the game, so eventually I plan to use this and upload the illustrations of all of the items in the game. Whichever book these came from is the one I'm using, I'll try to find out more about it. If I (or others too) find out more about the books, I for one would like to have articles about the various strategy guides released, though for now I probably might only be able to do the one I'm using for EBB.
::::I don't actually own the EarthBound one, but from what it seems like is it's basically the Mother 2 counterpart to the Mother 1 guide. A little while ago I was able to find a collection of the item pages on Starmen.net's Mother 1+2 item guide, which contain all of the other items besides the weapons have the English names right next to the items[http://starmen.net/mother12/itemguides/mother2/weapons/weapons.php] (which makes it more convenient and a lot easier to translate the names so it's a plus for me). I don't have the M2 player's guide, and from what it seems both that and the EarthBound player's guide don't have pictures of every item in the game, so eventually I plan to use this and upload the illustrations of all of the items in the game. Whichever book these came from is the one I'm using, I'll try to find out more about it. If I (or others too) find out more about the books, I for one would like to have articles about the various strategy guides released, though for now I probably might only be able to do the one I'm using for EBB.


::::Also I believe it would be a good idea to mention which images are acceptable for the mainspace. Generally as long as they come from official sources (official artwork, Player's guides and strategy guides, etc) they should be fine. Fan made art should only be limited to userpages and never used in the mainspace. <span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS">'''''[[User:Ultimate Toad|<font color="dodgerblue">Omegα</font>]] [[User talk:Ultimate Toad|<font color="mediumseagreen">Toαd</font>]] [[Special:contributions/Ultimate Toad|<font color="red">64</font>]]'''''</span> [[Image:Toad.jpg|20px]] 14:06, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
::::Also I believe it would be a good idea to mention which images are acceptable for the mainspace. Generally as long as they come from official sources (official artwork, Player's guides and strategy guides, etc) they should be fine. Fan made art should only be limited to userpages and never used in the mainspace. <span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS">'''''[[User:Ultimate Toad|<font color="dodgerblue">Omegα</font>]] [[User talk:Ultimate Toad|<font color="mediumseagreen">Toαd</font>]] [[Special:contributions/Ultimate Toad|<font color="red">64</font>]]'''''</span> [[File:Toad.jpg|20px]] 14:06, 15 July 2020 (UTC)


== Artwork removal request ==
== Artwork removal request ==
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::I don't have an actual picture to use, but I would suggest something to match with the blue background. I'll be thinking of one that will work. I thought maybe we could have the clay models of some characters, eg the EarthBound protags like Ness and Ninten (unfortunately Lucas doesn't have an official clay model, and it'd be a bad idea to use fanmade ones without permission).
::I don't have an actual picture to use, but I would suggest something to match with the blue background. I'll be thinking of one that will work. I thought maybe we could have the clay models of some characters, eg the EarthBound protags like Ness and Ninten (unfortunately Lucas doesn't have an official clay model, and it'd be a bad idea to use fanmade ones without permission).


::I also have thought of in the past other additions to this skin, such as adding colors to the admins' usernames in the recent changes and page histories, something like this: <span style="text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #AF7700"><font color="#EFDA0A">'''Admin's username'''</font></span>. I have seen this done on other wikis, just I don't know how to do so besides the text color. <span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS">'''''[[User:Ultimate Toad|<font color="dodgerblue">Omegα</font>]] [[User talk:Ultimate Toad|<font color="mediumseagreen">Toαd</font>]] [[Special:contributions/Ultimate Toad|<font color="red">64</font>]]'''''</span> [[Image:Toad.jpg|20px]] 00:24, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
::I also have thought of in the past other additions to this skin, such as adding colors to the admins' usernames in the recent changes and page histories, something like this: <span style="text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #AF7700"><font color="#EFDA0A">'''Admin's username'''</font></span>. I have seen this done on other wikis, just I don't know how to do so besides the text color. <span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS">'''''[[User:Ultimate Toad|<font color="dodgerblue">Omegα</font>]] [[User talk:Ultimate Toad|<font color="mediumseagreen">Toαd</font>]] [[Special:contributions/Ultimate Toad|<font color="red">64</font>]]'''''</span> [[File:Toad.jpg|20px]] 00:24, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
:::That font color and style is pretty hard to read... [[User:Alex95|Alex95]] ([[User talk:Alex95|talk]]) 00:51, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
:::That font color and style is pretty hard to read... [[User:Alex95|Alex95]] ([[User talk:Alex95|talk]]) 00:51, 19 July 2020 (UTC)


::::<span style="color:#DFC530>('''Username''')</span> How about this instead? <span style="font-size:2pt>totally not a give us mother3 reference</span> <span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS">'''''[[User:Ultimate Toad|<font color="dodgerblue">Omegα</font>]] [[User talk:Ultimate Toad|<font color="mediumseagreen">Toαd</font>]] [[Special:contributions/Ultimate Toad|<font color="red">64</font>]]'''''</span> [[Image:Toad.jpg|20px]] 01:17, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
::::<span style="color:#DFC530>('''Username''')</span> How about this instead? <span style="font-size:2pt>totally not a give us mother3 reference</span> <span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS">'''''[[User:Ultimate Toad|<font color="dodgerblue">Omegα</font>]] [[User talk:Ultimate Toad|<font color="mediumseagreen">Toαd</font>]] [[Special:contributions/Ultimate Toad|<font color="red">64</font>]]'''''</span> [[File:Toad.jpg|20px]] 01:17, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, that's better, though gold doesn't really mesh well on white, tbh. [[User:Alex95|Alex95]] ([[User talk:Alex95|talk]]) 01:19, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, that's better, though gold doesn't really mesh well on white, tbh. [[User:Alex95|Alex95]] ([[User talk:Alex95|talk]]) 01:19, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
::::::Thank you for taking it down! Minor design advice: Yellow text is difficult to read on white pages. Just go with <span style="color:#00b359>green</span> or a <span style="color:#00b8e6>blue</span>, one that's distinct enough from the default link color. If you have to squint to read it, it's not good. Don't do that. [[User:Tina|Tina]] ([[User talk:Tina|talk]]) 06:11, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
::::::Thank you for taking it down! Minor design advice: Yellow text is difficult to read on white pages. Just go with <span style="color:#00b359>green</span> or a <span style="color:#00b8e6>blue</span>, one that's distinct enough from the default link color. If you have to squint to read it, it's not good. Don't do that. [[User:Tina|Tina]] ([[User talk:Tina|talk]]) 06:11, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
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== Was the WikiBound skin discontinued? ==
== Was the WikiBound skin discontinued? ==


Noticed when logging in the WikiBound skin is missing, and the default is monobook. I'm guessing an update might've caused compatibilty issues. If this is the case would anyone be opposed to me editing the monobook skin to make our skin a bit more unique? --<span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS">'''[[User:Ultimate Toad|<font color="dodgerblue">Omegɑ</font>]][[User talk:Ultimate Toad|<font color="red">Toɑd</font>]][[Special:contributions/Ultimate Toad|<font color="mediumseagreen">64</font>]]'''</span> [[File:Toadsig.png|20px]] 03:22, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
Noticed when logging in the WikiBound skin is missing, and the default is monobook. I'm guessing an update might've caused compatibilty issues. If this is the case would anyone be opposed to me editing the monobook skin to make our skin a bit more unique? --<span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS">'''[[User:Ultimate Toad|<span style="color:dodgerblue">Omegɑ</span>]][[User talk:Ultimate Toad|<span style="color:red">Toɑd</span>]][[Special:contributions/Ultimate Toad|<span style="color:mediumseagreen">64</span>]]'''</span> [[File:Toadsig.png|20px]] 03:22, 14 December 2021 (UTC)


Unfortunately, yes. The WikiBound skin broke on the move to 1.36, and Grifkuba has since moved onto 1.37. It's not Grifkuba policy to maintain custom skins, and while we may reevaluate this one day, we intend to leave
Unfortunately, yes. The WikiBound skin broke on the move to 1.36, and Grifkuba has since moved onto 1.37. It's not Grifkuba policy to maintain custom skins, and while we may reevaluate this one day, we intend to leave
it up to communities to supply us with patches for new versions. [[User:Ampera|Ampera]] ([[User talk:Ampera|talk]]) 20:17, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
it up to communities to supply us with patches for new versions. [[User:Ampera|Ampera]] ([[User talk:Ampera|talk]]) 20:17, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
:<s>Wow I actually guessed correctly</s> Yeah stuff like this can happen. In the meantime though I can WikiBound-ize the monobook skin. Only problem is I can't see the edits I make to the sidebar boxes and tabs, hopefully it's just a glitch on my end and not something that affects everyone. --<span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS">'''[[User:Ultimate Toad|<font color="dodgerblue">Omegɑ</font>]][[User talk:Ultimate Toad|<font color="red">Toɑd</font>]][[Special:contributions/Ultimate Toad|<font color="mediumseagreen">64</font>]]'''</span> [[File:Toadsig.png|20px]] 13:50, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
:<s>Wow I actually guessed correctly</s> Yeah stuff like this can happen. In the meantime though I can WikiBound-ize the monobook skin. Only problem is I can't see the edits I make to the sidebar boxes and tabs, hopefully it's just a glitch on my end and not something that affects everyone. --<span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS">'''[[User:Ultimate Toad|<span style="color:dodgerblue">Omegɑ</span>]][[User talk:Ultimate Toad|<span style="color:red">Toɑd</span>]][[Special:contributions/Ultimate Toad|<span style="color:mediumseagreen">64</span>]]'''</span> [[File:Toadsig.png|20px]] 13:50, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
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