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:There are times where forcing an official name can work against us. The reason we refrained from moving Mother to EarthBound Beginnings is because the English name was new while Mother was used for many years prior, moving the page would've resulted in the risk of our wiki getting less exposure, as most people using search engines will be using the names they are more familiar with due to being more widely known as they were used longer. Sure it's not an issue anymore as most casual gamers have adapted to the English name (while the more "hardcore" fans prefer Mother and EB zero), but the same problems would arise if say by some miracle a Mother 3 localization happens and all the characters and such recieve new names that are completely dissimilar to what they've been known by in the fan translation for many ''many'' years, and arguably on an even greater scale, along with causing confusion with our wiki using a different name than what basically every other EarthBound related site uses (say if, for example, [[Fassad]] gets moved to his official Japanese name "Yokuba", more people will be searching the former in search engines causing our wiki to be overlooked in the search results). On a related note, us using the Mother 3 fan translation's names means we technically are already using unofficial names in titles, and yes I fully realize this is an entirely different situation altogether as that's the closest we are able to get to an official English name, but my point on the benefits of using the names the general public are most familiar with still stands.
:There are times where forcing an official name can work against us. The reason we refrained from moving Mother to EarthBound Beginnings is because the English name was new while Mother was used for many years prior, moving the page would've resulted in the risk of our wiki getting less exposure, as most people using search engines will be using the names they are more familiar with due to being more widely known as they were used longer. Sure it's not an issue anymore as most casual gamers have adapted to the English name (while the more "hardcore" fans prefer Mother and EB zero), but the same problems would arise if say by some miracle a Mother 3 localization happens and all the characters and such recieve new names that are completely dissimilar to what they've been known by in the fan translation for many ''many'' years, and arguably on an even greater scale, along with causing confusion with our wiki using a different name than what basically every other EarthBound related site uses (say if, for example, [[Fassad]] gets moved to his official Japanese name "Yokuba", more people will be searching the former in search engines causing our wiki to be overlooked in the search results). On a related note, us using the Mother 3 fan translation's names means we technically are already using unofficial names in titles, and yes I fully realize this is an entirely different situation altogether as that's the closest we are able to get to an official English name, but my point on the benefits of using the names the general public are most familiar with still stands.


:I'll also point out that [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_titles#Common_names other] [https://www.ssbwiki.com/SmashWiki:SmashWiki_is_not_official wikis] have a clause to use the more common name in order to increase exposure regardless of whether or not it's official. And since we've used the familiar name clause in the past, I don't believe it's necessary to enforce a rule to use only official names now. The most I would remove is the paragraph of fan names, as such cases haven't come up besides the EarthBound 64 and fan translation examples, nor do I ever see another one coming up unless say a localization actually happens (which itself is unlikely), and instead just make it a general "familiar names" clause with no specific mention of fan nicknames. But I'd rather not completely ban using the most recognized name in place of the "official" name, especially if said name ''has'' been used in an official capacity, and make it a hard rule to ''only'' use official names. --<span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS">'''''[[User:Ultimate Toad|<font color="dodgerblue">Ultimate</font>]] [[User talk:Ultimate Toad|<font color="red">Toad</font>]]'''''</span> [[File:Toadsig.png|20px|link=Special:contributions/Ultimate Toad]] 16:38, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
:I'll also point out that [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_titles#Common_names other] [https://www.ssbwiki.com/SmashWiki:SmashWiki_is_not_official wikis] have a clause to use the more common name in order to increase exposure regardless of whether or not it's official. And since we've used the familiar name clause in the past, I don't believe it's necessary to enforce a rule to use only official names now. The most I would remove is the paragraph of fan names, as such cases haven't come up besides the EarthBound 64 and fan translation examples, nor do I ever see another one coming up unless say a localization actually happens (which itself is unlikely), and instead just make it a general "familiar names" clause with no specific mention of fan nicknames. But I'd rather not completely ban using the most recognized name in place of the "official" name, especially if said name ''has'' been used in an official capacity, and make it a hard rule to ''only'' use official names.
 
:Edit: I'll also add we use unofficial fan names [[List of EarthBound enemies by battle song|for EarthBound music tracks]] even for tracks that do have official names (Pokey Means Businesses > Cease Existence), of which wherever you search you're likely to find the common fan name on EarthBound fan sites and YouTube videos than the official names. And if by chance we were to give each song an individual article I would favor us using the most recognized names, while those that do have official names it will be mentioned in the opening paragraph. --<span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS">'''''[[User:Ultimate Toad|<font color="dodgerblue">Ultimate</font>]] [[User talk:Ultimate Toad|<font color="red">Toad</font>]]'''''</span> [[File:Toadsig.png|20px|link=Special:contributions/Ultimate Toad]] 16:38, 26 October 2023 (UTC)