WikiBound talk:Nomenclature: Difference between revisions

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:Edit: I'll also add we use unofficial fan names [[List of EarthBound enemies by battle song|for EarthBound music tracks]] even for tracks that do have official names (Pokey Means Businesses > Cease Existence), of which wherever you search you're far more likely to get the desired result on EarthBound fan sites and YouTube videos by searching the fan names over the official names. And if by chance we were to give each song an individual article, I would favor us using the most recognized names as the article title, while those that do have official names it will be mentioned in the opening paragraph. --<span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS">'''''[[User:Ultimate Toad|<font color="dodgerblue">Ultimate</font>]] [[User talk:Ultimate Toad|<font color="red">Toad</font>]]'''''</span> [[File:Toadsig.png|20px|link=Special:contributions/Ultimate Toad]] 16:38, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
:Edit: I'll also add we use unofficial fan names [[List of EarthBound enemies by battle song|for EarthBound music tracks]] even for tracks that do have official names (Pokey Means Businesses > Cease Existence), of which wherever you search you're far more likely to get the desired result on EarthBound fan sites and YouTube videos by searching the fan names over the official names. And if by chance we were to give each song an individual article, I would favor us using the most recognized names as the article title, while those that do have official names it will be mentioned in the opening paragraph. --<span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS">'''''[[User:Ultimate Toad|<font color="dodgerblue">Ultimate</font>]] [[User talk:Ultimate Toad|<font color="red">Toad</font>]]'''''</span> [[File:Toadsig.png|20px|link=Special:contributions/Ultimate Toad]] 16:38, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
::Hi, I'm not an active contributor here but I am an admin for another NIWA wiki and wanted to give my thoughts to this conversation. I don't believe that it is necessarily reasonable to base decisions on community preference for naming conventions. It is perhaps more reasonable for wikis like SmashWiki where the community integration elements are much more prominent, but generally speaking for a franchise like this, the last thing you want to do is propagate more misinformation about subjects. It may be true that a user would be unlikely to find what they were looking for if they searched a specific fan-made title for a music track. That isn't the wiki's purpose though. The wiki's purpose in principle should be to tell them what is ''actually true'', not what fans agree to be true. You ''should'' use official names for tracks regardless of what anyone else is doing because the wiki exists to inform them about these subjects. Perhaps it would not be unreasonable to keep these unofficial labels as redirects to the official names? That seems a much more reasonable decision. I understand SEO concerns, but I feel like SEO should take a backseat to the wiki serving its intended purpose to the reader, rather than telling them what the fans agree to be true. I don't think the SEO of this wiki would suffer terribly in most areas if official names were to be used anyway. I don't think it is reasonable to favor unofficial titles just because they are popular; I think that makes a disingenuous presentation to readers. Wikipedia and SmashWiki have very different goals from a wiki like this, one because of the worldly encyclopedic nature and the other because of its heavy competitive community integration. They don't really make sense as points of comparison. You put "most official name" in quotes but the concept of an official name is a very real thing. It should be respected in this context. I think most readers would generally agree that being told the actual name of something is preferable to being told what the fans generally call it; that's the ''actual information''. The fan translation of Mother 3 itself creates issues by giving alternative names to subjects that are in actuality the same as those from EarthBound, which is something this wiki has been forced to address. I even disagree that that is the closest you can get to official English translations. [[User:Rman|Rman]] ([[User talk:Rman|talk]]) 07:25, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
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